Nuove regole (parte)

[Niki]

Ma i diffusori all'altezza degli specchietti retrovisori non erano stati vietati? Tranne quelli piccoli verticali?
Sembra che, usciti dalla porta, stiano rientrando dalla finestra.

Qualche tempo fà leggevo un articolo che parlava della maggiore difficoltà che avranno i piloti per comandare i due marchingegni, kers e ala posteriore semovente. Dovrebbero esserci due tasti sul volante che comandano ognuno una delle due diavolerie.
Accetto scommesse su chi sarà il primo a fare casino con i due tasti. A meno che trovino una soluzione, o meglio, un trucco tipo un tasto per comandare entrambi, giacchè il kers lo si dovrebbe poter azionare nei momenti in cui si dovrebbe anche far stallare l'alettone, almeno teoricamente.

[Die Mensch-Maschine]

[quote="Niki"]
Accetto scommesse su chi sarà il primo a fare casino con i due tasti.
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Butto lì un nome: Karthikeyan (o come cacchio si scrive).

[depailler on tyrrell p34]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89260 facciamoci del male ..f1 videogame ormai

FIA open to tweaking rear wing rules

By Jonathan Noble Thursday, February 3rd 2011, 09:12 GMT

Moveable rear wingThe FIA is fully open to tweaking Formula 1's moveable rear wing rules to ensure they are a success, after setting out initials plans for a 600-metre overtaking zone at each track.

F1 teams have got down to work with the moveable rear wing technology in this week's Valencia test, but there remains a great deal of uncertainty about how the concept will work when it is actually put into action in the races.

However, AUTOSPORT can reveal that teams have now been informed by the FIA about the plans for the first few races of the season as the sport gets to grip with ensuring it improves the spectacle without making overtaking too easy.

Sources have revealed that the FIA's current plan is for the overtaking zone - where the moveable wing will be made active in races - to be the final 600 metres of a track's main straight.

A driver pursuing a rival will only be able to activate his wing there if he is within one-second of the car ahead of him at a timing zone that will be set-up in the braking area for the corner before that main straight.

The FIA believes that the 600-metre passing zone is the right length to ensure that overtaking is possible – but is also not too easy. Early simulation data suggests that this length of track will result in a speed differential between cars of between 10-12 km/h depending on car design.

Drivers will be also free to use the wing at will during practice and qualifying.

To help Formula 1 fans and television commentators understand the implementation of the rules better, lines will be painted on the track to mark out the overtaking and timing zone.

A single line on the straight will show where the overtaking zone starts, while two lines will be painted at the preceding corner to indicate the one-second time difference distance. This latter line will also serve as a visual back up for the FIA should the official timing transponders fail at any point.

The FIA plans to take a first look at the timing loop and speed data during next week's Jerez test, before a full-scale evaluation of the technology and overtaking zones during the final pre-season test at Bahrain in early March.

These tests will purely be, however, to ensure the FIA systems are working – with teams unlikely to co-operate enough to try out real overtaking moves to see how the moveable wings will react in full-on race conditions.

Should the simulations of car speed in the Bahrain test show that the 600-metre zone is going to make overtaking far too easy, or Bahrain's race is affected by too much passing, then its distance will be shortened – as the FIA is keen to get the right balance of passing from the off.

AUTOSPORT understands the FIA has told teams, however, that its current projection is to use the 600-metre for the first four races of the season before reviewing it for subsequent events.

The zones will be on the start-finish straights in Bahrain, Australia and Malaysia – while in China it will be at the end of the long back-straight.

Lotus technical chief Mike Gascoyne reckons the moveable rear wing success was dependent on the FIA getting the rules right.

"I think we have to be careful in its implementation and I think the governing body has to be willing to change how it is implemented to ensure that it works in the way it is meant to," he told AUTOSPORT.

"If you get a situation like you had in Indy, where they put in the Handford-wing and everyone could pass everyone, you just sat there the whole race trying to be second on the last lap - because then you would win. That was pretty rubbish – so they got rid of it.

"We need to be careful that it is not seen as some great salvation. Very often we have done things like this and they have done more harm than good, so you have to be prepared to tweak it.

"You don't want it to be too artificial, because you can argue some of the greatest drives were with Gilles Villeneuve holding off everybody – and if you say that is never going to happen any more then you will lose some of the most iconic moments of the sport."

Renault team principal Eric Boullier said that teams were happy they had got the rear wing technology working right – and that the only issue now was the FIA's implementation of it.

"The pressure now is on the FIA because the teams are more or less technically ready for this," he told AUTOSPORT. "The FIA needs to fine-tune this system.

[depailler on tyrrell p34]

Rubens describing the effects of the DCS (ARW).

QUOTE
The wing has worked very well, and it worked well all the time. The first impression of the wing that I had was that I was driving the Mach 5 from Speed Racer, when I pressed it looked like a turbo, because it greatly increases the speed, is a punch in the back.

It is extra work. You have to look at the wheel [to push the button]. I don't think we can speak of danger for now, but it is something that is in our heads during the first few laps, because if someone has a problem, lift his foot, or raise his hand to be overtaken and you're not looking for the road, it can be a problem.

If the guy in front, [and] you are at the same speed, and you're in that situation [in which you're] less than a second behind him, the light appears and you press the power button, I won't have doubts that you will overtake him. The speed's growth rate here was between 8 and 10 km/h depending on the wind. So, for sure you will overtake.

opinione di kubica
Adding that the rear wing’s effect is far more powerful than that of KERS, Kubica explained that the wing’s assistance for overtaking is minimal: “Today I did run behind another car once. The other car wasn’t using it and I was, but was it possible to overtake? No chance. I was using it straight away as well…so we will see.”

[depailler on tyrrell p34]

resto sconcertat dalla federazione che vuole creare una zona di sorpasso....fra un vedremo passaggi a livello strisce pedonali, velox...
RIDATECI LA VERA F1!

[gilles70]

[quote="depailler on tyrrell p34"]
resto sconcertat dalla federazione che vuole creare una zona di sorpasso....fra un vedremo passaggi a livello strisce pedonali, velox...
RIDATECI LA VERA F1!
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Certo che così diventerà sempre più una pagliacciata. Già i motociclisti non perdono occasione per sfotterci,
se dovessero sapere di queste nuove regole.....

[Giannazzo]

L'ala mobile usata in questo modo, con linee per terra, solo in determinati etc. è veramente una vaccata, però la modificherei o abolirei solo dopo la prima gara, giusto per il gusto di sentire Mazzoni&Capelli che spiegano come accidenti funziona.

[Giannazzo]

sono riuscito a non infarcirlo di moccoli :-P

http://motorsportrants.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/formula-1-ala-mobile-e-overtaking-zone-tanto-per-farla-semplice/

[Pennywise]

Sono estasiato  dal lavoro svolto da JT e dal suo gruppo di lavoro.

[Aviatore]

[quote="Pennywise"]
Sono estasiato  dal lavoro svolto da JT e dal suo gruppo di lavoro.
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Se non fosse che c'è di mezzo l'incolumità dei piloti ci sarebbe di che augurargli tanti di quei casini da fargli passare la voglia

[Pennywise]

[quote="l'Aviatore"]
[quote="Pennywise"]
Sono estasiato  dal lavoro svolto da JT e dal suo gruppo di lavoro.
[/quote]

Se non fosse che c'è di mezzo l'incolumità dei piloti ci sarebbe di che augurargli tanti di quei casini da fargli passare la voglia

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c'era da aspettarselo visto che MM l'aveva designato come suo erede  però, ingenuamente, ho sperato / pensato che JT tagliasse decisamente con il passato  ............ 

Aumenta il mio rimpianto per la mancata elezione di Ari Pieti Uolevi Vatanen  alla presidenza FIA.

[Powerslide]

Chissà se gli auspicati sorpassi con l'ala mobile ecciteranno il pubblico (che dalla FIA è considerato come un ammasso di coglionazzi sprovveduti).

Personalmente mi procureranno la stessa eccitazione di palpeggiare due tette al silicone.

[depailler on tyrrell p34]

[quote="Powerslide"]
Chissà se gli auspicati sorpassi con l'ala mobile ecciteranno il pubblico (che dalla FIA è considerato come un ammasso di coglionazzi sprovveduti).

Personalmente mi procureranno la stessa eccitazione di palpeggiare due tette al silicone.
[/quote]

[Niki]

Dalle descrizioni del funzionamento del dispositivo di Kubica e Barrichello, si capisce chi è il gran pilota e chi la pippa.

[Jackie_83]

ci metto la mano sul fuoco che questa vaccata durerà una stagione al massimo

Con quella all'anteriore doveva capitare lo stesso poi si è visto che "effetto spettacolo" c'è stato...molti non si sono presi neppure la briga di montarla